Given recent events around George Floyd and far beyond, this special episode of the CFI Podcast features Shaka Senghor, a leading advocate for criminal justice reform (and bestselling author), and Terry Brown, a former police officer in East Palo Alto (who has since run his own security firms) — who, incidentally, both grew up in Detroit but ended up on different sides of the law — in conversation with CFI co-founder Ben Horowitz.
The conversation goes deep and on the ground (please note that the discussion also includes details of violence, in case you have young children listening).